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	<title>Comments on: Canadian Council of Public Relation Firms Shouldn&#8217;t Ask for Media Monitoring RFPs</title>
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		<title>By: I Was Wrong. Canadian Council of PR Firms is Doing RFPs right &#124; Professional Blog Service</title>
		<link>http://problogservice.com/2009/12/15/canadian-council-pr-firms-should-not-ask-rfps/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>I Was Wrong. Canadian Council of PR Firms is Doing RFPs right &#124; Professional Blog Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A couple of days ago, I took the Canadian Council of PR Firms (CCPRF) to task for asking media monitoring agencies to subm.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[1071<p><span itemprop="commentText">[...] A couple of days ago, I took the Canadian Council of PR Firms (CCPRF) to task for asking media monitoring agencies to subm&#8230;. [...]</span><meta itemprop="commentTime" content="2009-12-17T13:06:56+00:00" /></p>
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		<title>By: Erik Deckers</title>
		<link>http://problogservice.com/2009/12/15/canadian-council-pr-firms-should-not-ask-rfps/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Deckers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joseph,

Thank you for clearing that up about the contracts. I didn&#039;t understand that this was what you were doing. I&#039;ll actually do a blog post about it to update that, so it&#039;s not just buried in the comments.


Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[1070<p><span itemprop="commentText">Hi Joseph,</p>
<p>Thank you for clearing that up about the contracts. I didn&#8217;t understand that this was what you were doing. I&#8217;ll actually do a blog post about it to update that, so it&#8217;s not just buried in the comments.</p>
<p>Erik</span><meta itemprop="commentTime" content="2009-12-17T12:47:24+00:00" /></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Thornley</title>
		<link>http://problogservice.com/2009/12/15/canadian-council-pr-firms-should-not-ask-rfps/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Thornley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik,
My post may have left you with the wrong impression. I&#039;m talking about why we&#039;re asking for proposals. But we are asking for proposals and we are planning to issue contracts at the end of the process. You can download the actual RFP from the link in the first paragraph of my post.
.-= Joseph Thornley´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/proprblog/~3/eoixCoKW2tk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms issues Media Monitoring RFP&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[1067<p><span itemprop="commentText">Hi Erik,<br />
My post may have left you with the wrong impression. I&#8217;m talking about why we&#8217;re asking for proposals. But we are asking for proposals and we are planning to issue contracts at the end of the process. You can download the actual RFP from the link in the first paragraph of my post.<br />
.-= Joseph Thornley´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/proprblog/~3/eoixCoKW2tk/" rel="nofollow">Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms issues Media Monitoring RFP</a> =-.</span><meta itemprop="commentTime" content="2009-12-16T14:44:00+00:00" /></p>
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		<title>By: Erik Deckers</title>
		<link>http://problogservice.com/2009/12/15/canadian-council-pr-firms-should-not-ask-rfps/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Deckers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

I&#039;m really glad you responded. Thank you.

I guess my question is, if you DO know what you want, why are you gathering the information via RFP? Why not a database, a survey, or even a sample hypothetical project? Why not a 3 page white paper based on a few different scenarios?

&quot;Client A is a nonprofit charged with providing information to the public about etc. etc.&quot;

And then the agencies would talk about how they would do the monitoring, and the tools they would use?

Of course, if that&#039;s what your RFP looks like, then forget everything I just said.

Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[1061<p><span itemprop="commentText">Joseph,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad you responded. Thank you.</p>
<p>I guess my question is, if you DO know what you want, why are you gathering the information via RFP? Why not a database, a survey, or even a sample hypothetical project? Why not a 3 page white paper based on a few different scenarios?</p>
<p>&#8220;Client A is a nonprofit charged with providing information to the public about etc. etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then the agencies would talk about how they would do the monitoring, and the tools they would use?</p>
<p>Of course, if that&#8217;s what your RFP looks like, then forget everything I just said.</p>
<p>Erik</span><meta itemprop="commentTime" content="2009-12-15T19:28:06+00:00" /></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Thornley</title>
		<link>http://problogservice.com/2009/12/15/canadian-council-pr-firms-should-not-ask-rfps/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Thornley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik,

I too agree that RFPs should not be used as education tools. Companies and organizations should know what they want before they issue the RFP and they should be committed to awarding business at the end of the process.

Both of these conditions are met in the case of the CCPRF&#039;s RFP.

The CEOs of the CCPRF member firms have discussed this at length. We do know what we are looking for - we want existing suppliers to offer us better service at a more reasonable price. And we want them to modernize their service to reflect the changing media landscape. If a supplier gives us all of this, that supplier will get our business.
.-= Joseph Thornley´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/proprblog/~3/eoixCoKW2tk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms issues Media Monitoring RFP&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[1058<p><span itemprop="commentText">Hi Erik,</p>
<p>I too agree that RFPs should not be used as education tools. Companies and organizations should know what they want before they issue the RFP and they should be committed to awarding business at the end of the process.</p>
<p>Both of these conditions are met in the case of the CCPRF&#8217;s RFP.</p>
<p>The CEOs of the CCPRF member firms have discussed this at length. We do know what we are looking for &#8211; we want existing suppliers to offer us better service at a more reasonable price. And we want them to modernize their service to reflect the changing media landscape. If a supplier gives us all of this, that supplier will get our business.<br />
.-= Joseph Thornley´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/proprblog/~3/eoixCoKW2tk/" rel="nofollow">Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms issues Media Monitoring RFP</a> =-.</span><meta itemprop="commentTime" content="2009-12-15T16:51:13+00:00" /></p>
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